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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por MяHousєLιgнт™ el Miér Nov 30, 2011 7:23 pm

A eso me refiero, el si tiene el perfil para entrar a esa escuela, por le hecho de que esa escuela es para musicos, y el ha resultado bueno haciendolo, sus oportunidades en este momento son pocas pero muy fuertes

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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por enohia el Dom Dic 04, 2011 10:51 pm

Gracias Iri por los aportes
Yo también adoro la familia Hummel-Hudson y quiero ver mas a Carole.
Estoy muy de acuerdo de todas sus palabras, creo que Finn esta demostrando que esta siendo mucho mas maduro con sus actos. Adore su actitud con Santana, y que a pesar de su resistencia inicial, él siguiera con su idea.
La canción es preciosa, dulce y esa voz rasposa le integro una interpretación distinta.
Yo creo que solo hasta ahora el tema de ir a NY a una escuela de Artes, es donde Finn no se siente muy seguro pero creo que sera un tema que tocaran en los últimos capítulos.
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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por Irina Monteith el Mar Dic 06, 2011 11:33 am

Hola,

Les traigo unos aportes de Cory ayer en la premier de New Year’s Eve






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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por enohia el Dom Dic 11, 2011 2:04 pm

Que bien le queda esa mezcla de cuadros y traje a Cory!
Me encanto ver como los chicos fueron a apoyar a Lea.
Ella les dedico unas palabritas.
Dejo aportes :)







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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por Invitado el Dom Dic 11, 2011 2:51 pm

Mmm, a mí no me gusta mucho la camisa. No sé si es por los colores, o si es por otra cosa. xD

En en el capítulo me encantó verlo bailar. Jaja. Aunque no tenga coordinación, fue uno de sus mejores intentos, y se re notó.

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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por MяHousєLιgнт™ el Lun Dic 12, 2011 3:08 am

Que extraño que nadie ha pasado a comentar sobre el otro gesto de madurez de finn, el simple hecho de que el fuera hacia blaine y se disculpara, aceptara que tenia celos y que sentia temor por el talento de el, eso fue mas que genial, por que Finn al mismo tiempo se esta aceptando a el mismo, ya no solo reconoce que no es el mejor bailarin, si no que tambien no es el mejor cantante de todos los de ND, finn es genial cantando, solo que blaine quiza es mas atrevido, que se yo xD

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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por AnaGleek* el Lun Dic 12, 2011 11:01 am

Siento no haberme pasado, los examenes me tienen algo ocupada U__U

La verdad es que me gusta el nuevo Finn. Ha pasado de ser el Finn que solo pensaba en la popularidad y en ser el mejor a esto: tira del armario a Santana, pero al menos reconoce que estuvo mal y le dedica una cancion, y ahora le pide disculpas a Blaine y le admite sus celos por su talento. Le aplaudo, me estoy enamorando mas de el! (:
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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por Josluar'Freak el Lun Dic 12, 2011 6:50 pm

Ok... años sin pasar por acá sorry :S
En el ultimo capitulo Fin estuvo increíble!! primero estaba preocupado por los que faltaban y todo eso y se fue con Rachel a buscar a Sam...
y lo de Blaine!! o.o Fue bueno que aclararan todo y se lleven mejor
Espero que Finn siga asi y no lo dañen otra vez xD
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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por MяHousєLιgнт™ el Miér Dic 14, 2011 2:57 am

Finn no solo ha madurado, si no que ahora tiene mas ideas que antes, aunque el lado algo "torpe" no se le ha quitado por completo, como cuando penso que el barr tenia un teatro y que sam estaba apunto de actuar algo xD jajajaja, pero algo que se esta ganando es el respeto de varios, por que ahora es como un unificador en el club, alguien que los esta haciendo entrar en razon

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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por Irina Monteith el Jue Dic 15, 2011 12:55 pm

Holaa!!!

Al fin pude ver con calma los 2 capitulos y definitivamente este es el Finn que siempre soñe, empezando por:

Hold On Sixteen:
1. Finn estaba con Mrs Shue en el salon del coro preocupado por como ganar y definitivamente investigo donde estaba Sam
2. Fue con Rach a buscar a Sam, me encanto verlo cargandole un plato de comida y lo trajeron de vuelta :)
3. Su conversacion con Blaine, de muestra como ha madurado, como se esta aceptando a si mismo y como une al equipo. Inicialmente lei en spoilers q el se volveria contra Sam, pero no, lo q hizo fue unir al equipo
4. Su relacion con Rach, nada de celos, ella abraza a Sam y el no hace mala cara (We Are Young)

Extraordinary Merry Christmas:
1. Defitivamente en su relacion con Rach no pueden estar mejor, tomados de la mano, lo que le dijo cuando le entrego su segundo regalo
2. No tiene nada de dotes de actor, hablo de Finn porq Cory si los tiene
3. Me encanto que vendieran sus regalos de Navidad para donar el dinero

Por ultimo el capi de enero me tiene super preocupada ya quiero saber que pasara con Finn y su futuro
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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por lokakary el Vie Dic 16, 2011 3:49 am

Oh Finn!!! Ese personaje no puede ser mas real por que no se puede.

Finn es de los pocos personajes de la serie que se a desarrollado a lo largo de estas 3 temporadas, Yo creo que soy de las pocas que entendia a Finn en su tiempo "obscuro", Finn es de las personas que desgraciadamente no piensa antes de hablar (en alguanas ocaciones) pero tambien es el que sabe pedir disculpas y sabe aprender de sus errores.

Aun que sigo pensando que esa disculpa hacia Blaine debio se por los dos lados pues Finn no estaba del todo equivocado con respecto a Blaine pues estè desde que llego queira comparar New Direction con Los Warblers, ahi Blaine tenia que dar un paso atras y comprender que no ND tenia su propia forma de trabajar, aun que tambien creo que Finn pudo ser un poco mas sutil en su forma de tratarlo (aun que creo que Blaine le gusta haceserse el martir), asi que Creo que los dos se debian una disculpa, en este caso fue Finn quien dio el primer paso y es algo de valorar pues no muchos aceptan sus errores.

En este ultimo episodio me encanto el esfuerzo que hiso por darle a Rachel un buen regalo aun que tal vez el cerdo sea algo tonto creo que es lindo el hecho que el comprenda que en estas feches es importante compartir y dar a los demas, La estrella y lo que le dijo fue creo que lo mas romantico que a hecho y dicho Finn a Rachel fue perfecto y creo que muchas quisieramos que un chico hiciera lo mismo que Finn y luego para acabar le da los aretes creyendo que la estrella no era suficiente.

Ahora me pregunto que regalo le dara en San Valentin la estrella sera dificil de superar.
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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por MяHousєLιgнт™ el Lun Dic 19, 2011 2:10 pm

Creo que finn es como la version masculina de brittany xD digo, ella es super sabia, inteligente, pero lo que sale de su boca aveces son cosas que no tienen que ver, igual que finn, donde en el ultimo capitulo se esforzo por mostrar a rachel que no todo es material, que no todos tienen algo que comer ese dia, fue todo muy especial, y ahora hasta salio super romantico con el regalo de la estrella y el motivo por el cual se la da, osea, simplemente adorable!! al final el tambien se dejo llevar por un momento por la luz de los reflectores, eso no hay que negarlo, pero va en crecimiento, asi que solo es cosa de esperar a ver como se desarolla en el resto de la temporada

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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por LilyGleek el Mar Dic 20, 2011 12:53 pm

AVISO IMPORTANTE
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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por Elii Monteith!! el Mar Dic 27, 2011 11:31 pm

Hello!!
Hey hace tiempo que no me pasaba por el club xD ha estado muy inactivo segun veo :( espero qeue no quede hasí por mucho tiempo. Ok me pondre al corriente, Finn ha ido creciendo segín mi parecer porque ha madurado mucho y según veo gracias a Rachel...estoy de acuerdo con que Finn es una version Masculina de Brittany....porque cuando se lo proponen son muy listos y solucionan probemas. Bueno dejo aportes al club!!!


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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por Irina Monteith el Jue Ene 05, 2012 11:42 am

Hola Chic@s

Alguno se va a inscribir en la guerra de Clubs para defender al FC de Cory/Finn?? Yo me apunto si tengo mas apoyo

Aqui les dejo algunos aportes <3













Y vieron esto

Estuve muyyy feliz cuando Cory llego a 1.000.000 de seguidores
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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por Josluar'Freak el Vie Ene 06, 2012 1:57 pm

Irina yo también me emocione!! y hasta TT era!!
y me encanta tu firma!! :D
Ahora a lo otro.. Chic@s!! nos falta un miembro mas para representar al FC en la Guerra... Estamos Irina y yo
Quien se nos une??
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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por Elii Monteith!! el Sáb Ene 07, 2012 12:14 am

Heey!
Iri, yo te apoyo!!! A mi tambien
me gustaría representar al FC
de Cory!! Ojala yy se puedaa! :D
Bueno, dejo aportes!

Me encantaa estaa fotoo (aunqe Cory este gorditho)

Salu2 a toodoos Nos vemoos En otro postt!
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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por Josluar'Freak el Lun Ene 09, 2012 1:44 pm

Chicas ya estamos representando al FC en la Guerra!!Ahora a ganar!!
Y Elii me encanto esa imagen!! y el no esta gordo!! tiene exceso de belleza xD
Se ve super hot!! en esa imagen!! y en la 7!! y esa lenguita de Cory!!
Yo dejo unos aportes mas!!





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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por Elii Monteith!! el Mar Ene 10, 2012 5:43 pm

WoW amee las imagenes de Cory!
No he tendio oportunidad de participar en algun reto... :(
pero gracias a Irina y a Luar vamos bien
en la competencia...espero que el proximo reto no este tan dificil xD
Dejo aportes....

Por cierto casi lo olvido...Me conto una amiga que Cory se sale de Glee, pero que solo el y nadie mas? Es cierto? La verdad no le creo mucho...Espero que solo haya sido una broma...
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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por corymanic el Mar Feb 28, 2012 11:06 am

Hola.. yo quiero unirme a Fc..¿que tengo que hacer? , o solo escribir que quiero estar, algun show en especial¡ okno xD... ame la oracion , la hare todas las noches :) saludos xoxoxoxo
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Re: [FC] Cory/Finn

Mensaje por lokakary el Miér Mar 21, 2012 2:02 pm

Hola les traigo algo interesante no se si ya lo habian visto pero es un review del modo en el que canta Cory por una maestra profecional no se si ya lo habian traido es muy interesante el ver la gran evolucion que Cory a logrado en 3 años. (Esta en Ingles )



Spoiler:
Okay, I finally am able to post (part of) Finn/Cory's review.

Because Finn has had so many songs in Glee (67 to be precise ohmy.gif ) it is a lot of work. There are so many songs that I have decided to divide this review in two parts.

Today you get the first half, with:
- background of actor and character,
- vocal range and vocal techniques,
- a complete list of songs,
- comments on songs in 3 of the 6 categories I put Finn's songs in.

Hopefully within a few days I will post the second half, with:
- comments on songs in the other 3 of the 6 categories,
- my personal opinion.

Don't be disappointed that you won't be able to read it all right now.
See it as a double treat: 2 reviews for the price of 1. tongue.gif

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Finn / Cory - part 1 :


Background :
Cory Monteith was born in Canada. He moved to LA when he was hired to play Finn in Glee.
He is very smart (he could read at a very early age), but he had a rough childhood: his parents got divorced when he was 7, he dropped out of school as a teenager, and became a drug addict. At age 19 he decided to clean up his life. He had quite a few jobs, e.g. taxy driver, Walmart greeter, school bus driver, construction worker. He started acting in Canada, having several guestroles in series as Smalville, Supernatural and Stargate.
Cory finally got his high school diploma in 2011. happy.gif

Cory can play drums (he auditioned for Glee playing drums on Tupperware and other kitchen equipment), and he plays some guitar. He is the drummer of the Indie rock band Bonnie Dune.

Character :
Finn is the popular quarterback of Mc Kinley High. At least: he was popular untill Mr. Schuester forced Finn to join the New Directions. After that Finn has to take a lot of abuse from his football teammates (and recently the hockey teammembers) for that.
Finn has dated Quinn, then Rachel, then Quinn, then Rachel again. wacko.gif
Oh, and he lost his virginity to Santana somewhere inbetween.

Finn is the male leader of the New Directions. He tries to do his best, but struggles and stumbles often. But in his heart he is a good person.
His widowed mother married Kurt's dad, and now he and Kurt are step-brothers. Although RIB seems to have forgotten that. sad.gif


Vocal range, timbre and vocal techniques:

Cory is a baritone. I can't be sure, but from what I have discovered while doing this review I even think that he is a low baritone. His timbre is somewhere in the middle, when it comes to high/low coloring. But he has sung some mighty low notes.
Cory has a 'rough' but gentle voice, and it’s very suitable for (soft) rock and pop songs.

Cory's highest note on the show was in the 'Time Warp'. He sings an impressive Dsharp (D5sharp), and that's a note a baritone should not be able to sing. He's stretching and squeezing, but it's there, so it counts. tongue.gif
"The blackness would hit me and the void would be calling."
At 0.35:


We discovered Cory's lowest note (so far) only 2 weeks ago: it's in 'Girls Just Wanna Have Fun'.
Cory sings a Gsharp (G2sharp), and even though I will mention this again in my comments on this song: I'm glad that they are letting Cory sing lower these days.
At 0.34: "My father yells, "Whatcha gonna do with your life?"
At 1.07: "My mother says, "When you gonna live your life right?"
At 1.57: "And hide her away from the rest of the world."


When Cory was cast for Glee his voice had not been properly trained. The fandom was right: he was the worst male singer of ND back then. But a lot has changed since. Cory got vocal lessons and learned a lot in the practice of everyday work and singing live on tours.
He's improved immensely. I've said before that I have the highest respect and admiration for the vocal coach of the actors in Glee. It is most visible when you follow the progress of the actors/singers with the least experience back in 2008-2009: Cory and Chris. They have learned very good vocal techniques since then. Of course you cannot compare their vocal education with a professional singer in a music conservatory. The actors have to work gruesome hours everyday and they can spend only limited time on their vocal studies.
It's easy to sneer at the lack of Cory's vocal techniques, but I have the uttermost respect for him for learning so much in only 3 years of irregular vocal training. There is definitely still more to learn, but he has already got more depth and 'color' in his voice. Cory sings much less streneous now, and he's learned to relax his throat, by supporting his voice with his breath and abdomen muscles. Kudos.
Cory is still not the best of the male members of ND, but he's also not the worst anymore. I think (when given the right songs and music key) he can now measure up to Mark and Darren.

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Songs of Finn:

1-01 Pilot - I Can't Fight This Feeling anymore (solo)
1-01 Pilot - You're The One That I Want (duet with Rachel)
1-01 Pilot - Don't Stop Believing (duet with Rachel/group number)
1-02 Showmance - Push It (group number)
1-03 Acafellas - I want To Sex You Up (Acafellas)
1-05 The Rhodes Not Taken - Somebody To Love (group number)
1-06 Vitamin D - It's My Life/Confessions (males group number)
1-07 Throwdown - No Air (duet with Rachel)
1-07 Throwdown - Keep Holding On (duet with Rachel/group number)
1-10 Ballad - I'll Stand By You (solo)
1-10 Ballad - You're Having My Baby (solo)
1-11 Hairography - Imagine (group number)
1-12 Mattress - Smile-Lily Allen (duet with Rachel)
1-12 Mattress - Jump (group number)
1-13 Sectionals - You Can't Always Get What You Want (duet with Rachel/group number)
1-13 Sectionals - My Life Would Suck Without You (group number)
1-14 Hell-O - Hello, I Love You (solo)
1-14 Hell-O - Hello Goodbye (duet with Rachel)
1-15 The Power of Madonna - Borderline/Open Your Heart (duet with Rachel)
1-15 The Power of Madonna - Like a Virgin (small ensemble)
1-15 The Power of Madonna - What It Feels Like For a Girl (males group number)
1-15 The Power of Madonna - Like a Prayer (group number)
1-16 Home - A House is Not a Home (2 lines in a Kurt solo)
1-17 Bad Reputation - Run Joey Run (small ensemble)
1-18 Laryngitis - Jessie's Girl (solo)
1-18 Laryngitis - One (duet with Rachel/group number)
1-20 Theatricality - Shout It Out Loud (males group number)
1-20 Theatricality - Beth (1 verse in solo Puck)
1-21 Funk - Loser (duet with Puck)
1-21 Funk - Good Vibrations (duet with Puck, with a bit of Mercedes)
1-21 Funk - Give Up The Funk (group number)
1-22 Journey to Regionals - Faithfully (duet with Rachel)
1-22 Journey to Regionals - Anyway You Want It/Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin' (group number)
1-22 Journey to Regionals - Don't Stop Believing (group number)
1-22 Journey to Regionals - To Sir With Love (group number, duet part with Mercedes)
2-01 Audition - Empire State Of Mind (group number)
2-03 Grilled Cheesus - Losing My Religion (solo)
2-03 Grilled Cheesus - One of Us (group number)
2-04 Duets - Don't Go Breaking My Heart (duet with Rachel)
2-04 Duets - Born Again (duet with Rachel)
2-05 The Rocky Horror Glee Show - There's a Light (duet with Rachel + some Kurt)
2-05 The Rocky Horror Glee Show - Dammit Janet (duet with Rachel)
2-05 The Rocky Horror Glee Show - The Time Warp (group number)
2-06 Never Been Kissed - Stop, In The Name Of Love (males group number)
2-08 Furt - Marry You (group number)
2-08 Furt - Just The Way You Are (solo)
2-10 A Very Glee Christmas - Last Christmas (duet with Rachel)
2-10 The Christmas album - Jingle Bells (Finn + Puck + Artie)
2-11 The Sue Sylvester Shuffle - She's Not There (solo)
2-11 The Sue Sylvester Shuffle - Thriller/Heads Will Roll (little talking part)
2-13 Comeback - Sing (duet with Rachel/group number)
2-16 Original Song - Loser Like Me (duet with Rachel/group number)
2-18 Born This Way - I've Gotta Be Me (solo)
2-19 Rumours - I Don't Want To Know (duet with Quinn)
2-19 Rumours - Don't Stop (group number)
2-21 Funeral - Pure Imagination (group number)
2-22 New York - I Love New York, New York (group number)
2-22 New York - Pretending (duet with Rachel)
2-22 New York - Light Up The World (group number)
3-01 The Purple Piano Project - You Can't Stop The Beat (group number)
3-06 Mash-Off - I Can't Go For That-You Make My Dreams Come True (group number)
3-06 Mash-Off - Hit Me With Your Best Shot-One Way Or another (duet with Santana)
3-07 I Kissed a Girl - Girls Just Wanna Have Fun (solo)
3-08 Hold On To Sixteen - Man In The Mirror (small ensemble)
3-08 Hold On To Sixteen - We Are Young (group number)
3-09 Extraordinary Merry Christmas - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town (duet with Puck +Samuel)
3-09 Extraordinary Merry Christmas - Do They Know It's Christmas (group number)


I have divided Finn's songs in 5 categories:
- Group numbers (22)
- Only males (8)
- Miscellaneous (4)
- Finchel duets (18)
- Other duets (5)
- Individual songs (10)
^That is a total of 67 songs. blink.gif

Some songs that are technically group numbers (like the Pilot's DSB) I have stubbornly listed under Finchel duets because, even though other members of ND participate, Finn and Rachel are the main singers in those songs.

In this first part of Finn/Cory's review I will review the first 3 of those categories (group numbers, only males and miscellaneous).
In the second part I will deal with the latter 3 (Finchel duets, other duets and individual songs).
The second review will also have my personal opinion of Finn/Cory.

I will only comment on several of the songs in each category. First I list all the songs within the category, and then I will pick some of them out to comment on.

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Group numbers:
1-02 Showmance - Push It
1-05 The Rhodes Not Taken - Somebody To Love
1-11 Hairography - Imagine
1-12 Mattress - Jump
1-13 Sectionals - My Life Would Suck Without You
1-15 The Power of Madonna - Like a Prayer
1-21 Funk - Give Up The Funk
1-22 Journey to Regionals - Anyway You Want It/Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin'
1-22 Journey to Regionals - Don't Stop Believing
2-01 Audition - Empire State Of Mind
2-03 Grilled Cheesus - One of Us
2-05 The Rocky Horror Glee Show - The Time Warp
2-08 Furt - Marry You
2-19 Rumours - Don't Stop
2-21 Funeral - Pure Imagination
2-22 New York - I Love New York, New York
2-22 New York - Light Up The World
3-01 The Purple Piano Project - You Can't Stop The Beat
3-06 Mash-Off - I Can't Go For That-You Make My Dreams Come True
3-08 Hold On To Sixteen - Man In The Mirror
3-08 Hold On To Sixteen - We Are Young
3-09 Extraordinary Merry Christmas - Do They Know It's Christmas

1-05 The Rhodes Not Taken - Somebody To Love:
This is an epic song. Because of it's original (I'm a huge Queen fan), but also because of Glee. Next to 'Don't Stop Believing' for me this is one of the most identifying/defining songs of the New Directions.
The fun thing about this song is that because it was sung in one of the earliest episodes and on the live tour 2011 as well, I can use it to show how much Cory's voice has grown over the years.
This is the 2009 version:


This is Live 2011:


If you listen carefully you can hear that in the first version Cory's voice sounds a lot 'sharper' and more shrill than in the 2011 version. In the 2011 version Cory is singing more smoothly and with more depth.
And when you consider that the 2011 version is live, and the 2009 version was recorded and edited in a sound studio: than the difference and improvement between the 2 performances is even more impressive. wub.gif


1-12 Mattress - Jump:
This song gets an extra mentioning because of the terrific glissando (gliding tone) Finn sings at the beginning of the song. It's a complete octave glide, from C4 to C5, and I love it.
And so aparently did Cory (at 1.05) :



1-21 Funk - Give Up The Funk:
I want to show you the acapella version of this song. GUTF is not much of a song in itself, but when you listen to the acapella version and hear the cast members themselves sing the backup and harmonies it's quite interesting. And Cory is singing a lot in this song. I really like the Glee songs where the real cast members sing the backup.



1-22 Journey to Regionals - Anyway You Want It/Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin', Don't Stop Believing:
Even after the very good MJ songs at this years Sectionals, I think that the first Regionals was the best ND performance at a competition so far.
A lot of singers got a line or 2 and the harmonies were brilliant. It's also the closest ND has ever come to singing and functioning as a real show choir.
In 'Anyway You Want It/Lovin' Touchin' Squeezin' Finn sings a few lines in 2 verses. In the first verse Kurt sings second voice, in the second verse Rachel sings second voice. And although Kurt and Rachel are singing the same notes: their soundmix with Finn is completely different.
In 'Don't Stop Believing' Finn sings the first verse with Rachel, but then (in the full version at 1.50) he also sings some backup for Kurt.
I really love Furt singing together, and I am hoping for a real Furt duet some day.
BTW: Cory and Chris sang together in 'Born To Run' as well. I assume that 99%of you have seen this video, but I'll take the odd chance that one of you might not, and I will surprise him/her. biggrin.gif
It's the opening number of the Emmy's 2010. The little Furt harmony is at 3.00:



2-05 The Rocky Horror Glee Show - The Time Warp:
In the Time Warp Finn sings his highest note (so far), a D5sharp. Of course you can argue that it is more 'screamed' than sung, and that's true. But there are 2 reasons to defend that:
1) That note is extremely high for a baritone. Cory's voice is not meant to sing this high. If he would do this on a regular basis he would probably damage his voice. The highest note for a baritone normally is a B4. And that is stretching it. The D5sharp is 4 semitones higher. That may not seem like a lot, but believe me: it is.
2) The Time Warp is originally sung by RiffRaff (Kurt's role). It is meant to be screamed/shouted in a very rough and almost ugly way (as they tried to copy the film version). Therefore the way Cory is singing this song is exactly as it is supposed to be.
Actually: it's quite good acting of Cory.


2-21 Funeral - Pure Imagination:
In this song we get to see a bit of Finn's softer singing mode. He is the least 'smooth' singer in this song (next to Tina, Kurt and Artie), but he manages to soften and adapt his voice to match the soundmix more. And his rough-but-soft voice timbre is a surprisingly nice addition in this soundmix.
Cory has to sing a really high note (an A4) very softly. It's much more difficult to sing a high note soft than loud, and it's very well done by Cory. He would not have been able to do that in season 1.
And there's yet another tiny but beautiful Furt harmony in 'Pure Imagination'.

3-06 Mash-Off - I Can't Go For That-You Make My Dreams Come True:
One of my most favorite mash-ups. Finn sings a big part of this song. When it first came out and we had no visuals to go with it I had a hard time trying to find out what part Finn was singing and what part Rory. Which is odd. Because Damian has a natural deeper voice timbre than Cory.
This indicates that Cory has improved the depth in his voice, a vocal technically very good thing.
Or that I'm very lousy at identifying voices.


3-08 Hold On To Sixteen - We Are Young:
Yes: the old Glee feeling is back. 'We Are Young' is Glee as it used to be: Finchel leading a song, with some other singers singing solos as well and the chorus. It was the standard group number mould of season 1 and a big part of 2. And God, I missed those songs. We want more, please.
'We Are Young' may sound as quite a simple song, but it is not. The verse goes rapidly up and down in melody and there are some tempo changes.
In this song I noticed 2 things:
1) Finn is allowed to sing lower these days, and it improves the soundmix between Cory and Lea.
2) In 'We Are Young' Finn is singing lead voice, Rachel sings the second voice when they harmonize together in their verse. It's rare and I really like it. wub.gif
This happened only in 2 other duets before ('Hello-Goodbye' and 'Pretending'). I'll get to those songs later (in the second review).

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Only Males:
1-03 Acafellas - I want To Sex You Up (Acafellas)
1-06 Vitamin D - It's My Life/Confessions
1-15 The Power of Madonna - What It Feels Like For a Girl
1-20 Theatricality - Shout It Out Loud
1-20 Theatricality - Beth
2-06 Never Been Kissed - Stop, In The Name Of Love
2-10 The Christmas album - Jingle Bells
3-09 Extraordinary Merry Christmas - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town

1-06 Vitamin D - It's My Life/Confessions:
In epsiode 6 of the first season they found Cory's strength and best music style: rock, whether it is soft or hard rock. His voice is very suited for rock songs: it's rough and it's quite high.
'It's My Life/Confessions' is a mash-up of a Bon Jovi song and an Usher song. Hard rock and R&B.
Cory's timbre is closer to Jon Bon Jovi than to Usher. Kevin is the better choice for Usher, and once again the music arrangers of Glee prove their craftmanship. The combination of Cory and Kevin is one of the best Glee has shown us. Plus: the performance is hilarious. laugh.gif



1-15 The Power of Madonna - What It Feels Like For a Girl:
I have stated my love for this song before (see Kevin and Mark's review), so I won't do it again (well….. I think I just did it anyway rolleyes.gif ).
In Cory's review I want to mention the little harmony of Finn and Puck in the beginning of WIFLFAG. Both of them are baritones, but with very distinctive timbres: Mark's voice is a little smoother than Cory's. And Mark sometimes has some nasal coloring in his voice, whereas Cory's voice is not that 'edged'.
Their soundmix is interesting: quite similar voices in height and overall timbre, but with these very different 'trademarks'.

1-20 Theatricality - Beth:
'Beth' is mostly a Puck song, but Finn also sings a verse.
Please forgive me, but I'm gonna fangirl a bit now. Finn's verse has IMO the most thrilling note I ever heard Cory sing. It's the way he sings the second syllable of the word "empty" in his first line ("You say you feel so empty…"). I don't know why, but that note gets me every time. blush.gif
(at 0.53)



2-10 The Christmas album - Jingle Bells / 3-09 Extraordinary Merry Christmas - Santa Claus Is Coming To Town:
The first Glee Christmas Album had a very funny bigband version of 'Jingle Bells'. his was the first time we heard Finn, Puck and Artie sing jazz. Since then both Finn and Puck have sung a Sammy Davis jr. style song. Puck covered 'The Lady Is a Tramp' and Finn has done 'I've Gotta Be Me'. And I want Finn to sing more jazz on Glee, because I like it.
On the second Christmas Album Finn, Puck and TGP Samuel sing 'Santa Claus Is Coming To Town'. Now I like Bruce Springsteen a lot and although I've seen some comments on the internet that disagree with me: I must say that I personally like the Glee version better. Cory's voice has the right roughness for a Bruce Springsteen song (as he has also proven in 'Born To Run' at the Emmy's 2010).
In comparison with Bruce I like Finn's more accurate singing of the right notes (as in on or off key). Not that Bruce Springsteen sings off key: but he's a little less tidy in his pitching. Hey: I am a vocal coach, and these things matter to me.
If you look at the B&W Christmas special that Glee did just last episode I think that 'Jingle Bells' would have fitted better in that 50's/60's special. But SCICTT gave us the joy of seeing Finn play the drumms again, so…..I'm good. biggrin.gif

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Miscellaneous:
1-16 Home - A House is Not a Home (2 lines in a Kurt solo)
1-21 Funk - Loser (rap duet with Puck)
1-21 Funk - Good Vibrations (rap duet with Puck, with a bit of Mercedes)
2-11 The Sue Sylvester Shuffle - Thriller/Heads Will Roll (little talking part)

1-16 Home - A House is Not a Home (2 lines in a Kurt solo) :
I love Cory's voice, he is my second favorite (after Chris). And Cory and Chris have sung a few very beautiful harmonies together, but this is not one of them.
The few lines Cory sings in AHINAH are very jarring. But that's not Cory's fault:
1) The song is too high for him. The key AHINAH has been set in on Glee is suitable for a woman's voice (or countertenor, as Chris is), certainly not a baritone.
2) Chris sings this song mostly in high register, although he switches to low register too. But his low register still has a higher timbre than Cory's. Cory has to sing everything in low register, stretching for the highest notes. That's not fair compared to Chris' seemingly 'easier' access to those high notes.
3) Within the context of the show (the scene of Finn singing to his dad's urn) I love Cory's part in AHINAH (even though it takes screentime and singing lines away from my boy Kurt).
But as a recording, without the visual: uhm, no.
They replaced one of Finn's lines in the released track, and they were right: that was the worst line. But IMO they should have left Finn out completely, and let Kurt sing the whole song. If they had done that they would have done both singers a favor.
And once again: this has got nothing to do with Cory's singing in general.
I also believe that if AHINAH had been recorded one year later that Cory would have sounded much better. Just listen to 'Pure Imagination' for reference/comparison: that's also a slow song with very high notes. And Cory sings beautiful there, and he is able to match Chris' voice much better.

1-21 Funk - Loser / Good Vibrations (rap duet with Puck, with a bit of Mercedes) :
As I have mentioned before: I can't really professionally comment on rap. All I can hear in Finn's rapping is that he sometimes is too slow. And it's not the rhythm or beat: as the drummer he is Cory keeps the beat just fine. It's more his enunciation (as far as I can hear, as English is not my first language). It's as if the muscles in his mouth can't move fast enough. I guess it's a bit similar as the muscles of his feet being too slow when he's dancing. laugh.gif
(Although he's become a much better dancer now.)

2-11 The Sue Sylvester Shuffle - Thriller/Heads Will Roll (little talking part) :
Finn doesn't sing in 'Thriller/Heads Will Roll', but what he does do is very impressive. He has a talking part in the middle of the song, and it's creepy and sexy at the same time. blush.gif
I still don't know if his voice has been manipulated or not here. Of course some studio effects have been used to make his voice more 'zombie-like', but I mean if they actually tweeked his voice lower than it naturally is. Or can Cory really talk that low?
If you had asked me this question a few weeks back I would have answered that I thought that they manipulated his voice and turned it lower in the studio.
But only a few weeks ago Finn sang 'Girls Just Wanna Have Fun', and he sang really low in that song. So now I'm not so sure about the tweeking in 'Thriller' anymore.
Between the lowest note in GJWHF (G2sharp) to the lowest talking notes in 'Thriller' (C2) there are 8 semitones. That's a lot. If it's true that Cory can reach that low all by himself then I'm very impressed. Finn / Cory - part 2 :


Finchel Duets:
1-01 Pilot - You're The One That I Want
1-01 Pilot - Don't Stop Believing
1-07 Throwdown - No Air
1-07 Throwdown - Keep Holding On
1-12 Mattress - Smile-Lily Allen
1-13 Sectionals - You Can't Always Get What You Want
1-14 Hell-O - Hello Goodbye
1-15 The Power of Madonna - Borderline/Open Your Heart
1-18 Laryngitis - One
1-22 Journey to Regionals - Faithfully
2-04 Duets - Don't Go Breaking My Heart
2-04 Duets – With You I’m Born Again
2-05 The Rocky Horror Glee Show - There's a Light (+ some Kurt)
2-05 The Rocky Horror Glee Show - Dammit Janet
2-10 A Very Glee Christmas - Last Christmas
2-13 Comeback - Sing
2-16 Original Song - Loser Like Me
2-22 New York - Pretending

As I said in the first part of Cory’s review I marked a couple of group numbers as Finchel duets, because Finn and Rachel sing 99% of the solos in those songs. There is usually not much more than a Mercedes ‘whail’ and backup from ND. rolleyes.gif

Finn and Rachel make a very peculiar singing pair. Rachel is the Broadway maiden with the golden voice. She has trained her voice to soar over an audience in a theatre, and she is the rightful star of ND. Finn is this big oaf of a quarterback with a rough, untrained voice. They shouldn’t match as singing duet partners. But somehow they do.
And once again we have partly the music arrangers of Glee to thank for that. They usually figure a way out to make the strangest duet partners on this show work.
In most Finchel duets when there is a harmony Rachel sings lead and Finn sings second voice. This way the more powerful voice does the heavy lifting of the lead melody. While the ‘weaker’ voice has the task of supporting the lead and providing the extra layer of a second voice. It’s an excellent balance.

Cory’s rough and edgy voice contrasts, complements and enhances Lea’s smooth and round voice. Here the differences between these 2 voices actually works to make a nice, interesting blend.
Oh, and I better say this right now: in most Finchel duets Cory has to sing a lot of intricate harmonies. And he’s very, very good at doing that.
The casting directors of Glee hit gold when they found Cory and matched him with Lea, singing wise. Finchel is a rare soundmix that shouldn’t work, but miraculously does. And it probably was pure accidental. rolleyes.gif
With the exception of Hummelberry I think that Finn is the best duet partner for Rachel. Personally I prefer Finchel over Raine/Blainchel any day.
Unfortunately we have yet to hear a real Finchel duet in season 3. 'We Are Young' came close, but come on, RIB+, give us more. Most of us really love the Finchel duets, you know.

I will comment on most Finchel duets, but not all of them. Here we go.

1-01 Pilot - You're The One That I Want :
The very first Finchel duet. The full version was never released, and it's doubtful they even recorded the full song. It's very roughly edited, maybe it was even recorded on set, during the shooting of the scene.
I wouldn't mind so much, if they hadn't used the same version again an entire year after the original recording, in episode 11 of season 1 (Hairography). Cory had improved so much by then that it really irritated me hearing the same recording again.

1-01 Pilot - Don't Stop Believing :
The anthem of Glee. Here is where the magic started. wub.gif
You can hear Finn singing the 1st verse, starting the song, and then Rachel sings the 2nd verse. The 3rd verse they share, and then they sing the chorus together, with backup from ND. Finn and Rachel alternate lines and then Finn sings a high second voice to Rachel’s lead.
And we have our first Finchel duet. The famous Finchel formula is born.

1-07 Throwdown - No Air / Keep Holding On :
There were 2 duets in ‘Throwdown’. The first (No Air) I don’t like. It’s set too high for Cory, and he can’t handle that yet, especially not the high second voice. I even think that Rachel is singing too high and out of her Broadway comfort zone here. They both still had a lot to learn when they recorded this song.
I do like ‘Keep Holding On’. It’s lower and there is more dynamic between the 2 singers. Finn mostly sings a lower second voice to Rachel’s lead, but there is a little part where it’s reversed, at 0.30:



Notice how soft Lea’s voice sounds when she sings that second voice. She adapts her voice to fit in better. Well done, Lea.
And here Cory already proves how good he is at singing second voice and harmony. Not everyone can just do that.

1-13 Sectionals - You Can't Always Get What You Want :
This sort of song is exactly in Cory’s wheelhouse.
The combination of mostly Finn and Rachel in this song is very refreshing, if you compare it to the original. have you ever heard the original? (Rolling Stones)
There’s quite a difference between the Rolling Stones and Glee. IMO the Glee version is better, but of course not everyone will agree with me. I just love the Glee music arrangement.
There is hardly any harmony and second voice between Finchel: it’s mostly each of them singing a verse or some lines. But with the backup vocals of the rest of ND it’s a very full and harmonious sounding song.
Beautiful. smile.gif

1-14 Hell-O - Hello Goodbye :
Now this is a very interesting song when it comes to Finchel duets. It’s one of the few times when Finn and Rachel swap roles and Finn sings the lead almost the entire song, whereas Rachel sings a second voice. They edited Lea’s voice a little softer than usual, and I really like the soundmix this creates.
Rachel only sings 2 lines in lead, at 1.20. At 1.30 it’s reversed again:




1-18 Laryngitis - One :
Originally this is a duet of U2’s Bono and Mary J. Blige. (One - U2 feat. Mary J. Blige)
Not that I think that Lea is bad in this song, not at all. But I really would have had this song sung by Amber/Mercedes and Cory. Or maybe Naya/Santana. It would have given this song so much more soul. And Cory is once again very good at singing a rock song. Bono suits him.

1-22 Journey to Regionals – Faithfully :
The end of the journey for ND in season 1. On one of the first Finchel duets (No Air) I commented that I didn’t like it because I thought that it was too high for Cory. Now you can hear the progress that Cory has made, his own journey. 'Faithfully' is also high for Cory, and within this genre/style it’s also too high for Lea. But by now both have learned how to do this, and to do this well.
And I absolutely love the music arrangement of this song, especially the beautiful second voice and harmony that is not in the original. These harmonies lift this song to another level. I can’t help but praise them again: the music arrangers of Glee are masters at their work. wub.gif

2-04 Duets - Don't Go Breaking My Heart / With You I’m Born Again :
Two actual excisting duets for Finchel in the episode ‘Duets’.
Finn has to sing really, really high to sing like Elton John in 'Don't Go Breaking My Heart'. Okay, I’ll say it once more: don’t let baritones sing tenor songs. Or at least lower the key if they do.
Anyway: Finn and rachel were wrong when they assumed that they they were going to win the Breadstix meal with this song, sorry. It's not that good.
‘With You I’m Born Again’: Finn and Rachel actually make this cheesy song sound kinda…..good. huh.gif It's a little faster than the original, and if you don't look at their faces and clothing while they are singing it's really nice.
And I’m still cross that they didn’t release a full version of this song.




2-05 The Rocky Horror Glee Show - There's a Light / Dammit Janet :
The Rocky Horror Glee Show gave the unique possibility of seeing several Glee cast members in another role. Most of them have enough actor instinct to change their singing voice (and acting) according to the role they played in The Rocky Horror Show: Lea, Chris, Dianna, and Cory. They all showed something different in the RHGS songs. In the duets Lea colors her 'timbre' higher, too sound more girly and innocent. This effects the 'normal' Finchel soundmix.
But Cory alters his voice too: you can hear a slight difference in Cory’s voice, as if he’s playing another role: Brad, not Finn.
But Finn is still there. It's kinda weird. blink.gif

2-22 New York - Pretending :
Rachel sings lead voice in the 1st verse, Finn singing second voice. Same in the chorus.
But then in the 2nd verse Finn suddenly sings the lead voice, and Rachels switches to second voice. When they sing the chorus again Rachel leads once more. Funny.
The 2nd verse didn't make it into the episode.

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Other Duets + :

1-15 The Power of Madonna - Like a Virgin (small ensemble, duet part with Santana)
1-17 Bad Reputation - Run Joey Run (small ensemble)
1-22 Journey to Regionals - To Sir With Love (group number, duet part with Mercedes)
2-19 Rumours - I Don't Want To Know (duet with Quinn)
3-06 Mash-Off - Hit Me With Your Best Shot-One Way Or Another (duet with Santana)

1-15 The Power of Madonna - Like a Virgin / 3-06 Mash-Off - Hit Me With Your Best Shot-One Way Or Another :
Two duets with Santana/Naya.
In 'Like A Virgin' Cory and Naya sing harmony. Naya is singing lead, Cory second voice, just like Finchel.
I like that Naya has a more 'fixed'/tight voice than Lea's: the harmonies are more solid when Cory sings with her. But I prefer the Finchel soundmix over this, TBH. Naya has a distinct voice, with an edge, and it clashes a bit with Cory's voice when they sing harmony. Their soundmix doesn't blend well and it's too strong, IMO.
The combination of Finn and Santana works much better in HMWYBS/OWOA. Here they alternate and sing one after another, back and forth, aka 'echoing'. This way their very distinct voices don't get in the way of each other, but individually spice this song up to the max.

1-17 Bad Reputation - Run Joey Run (small ensemble) :
Wonderful: 3 good baritones singing in the same song. And no, I'm not even going to try to compare them. Suffices to say that Cory is not doing so bad and holds his ground to Mark and Jonathan Groff .
TBH: the first time I heard (and saw) this song I didn't even notice that Jesse was replaced by Finn. blink.gif
Now that's not a bad compliment for Cory, if I didn't immediately know it wasn't still the Groff I heard singing?

1-22 Journey to Regionals - To Sir With Love (group number, duet part with Mercedes) :
Just a little duet part, but a very beautiful one. Once again Cory sings the second voice, this time to Amber's lead. Amber's smooth R&B voice matches wonderfully well with Cory's rough classic rock voice. Cory sings quite high, while Amber sings quite low. It's very unusual. And I really, really like hearing these 2 singers together.
The Cory/Amber part is at 1.31:




2-19 Rumours - I Don't Want To Know (duet with Quinn) :
Apart from a little bit of 'Don't Stop Believing' in the episode 'The Rhodes Not Taken' this is the only Fuinn duet. And that's a pity. Because they sound very good together.
Remember what I said (when talking about Finchel duets) about having the strongest singer singing lead and the weaker singer the second voice? Well, it works here as well. But this time Cory is the strongest singer and Dianna the 'weaker' one.
So Cory sings lead voice, Dianna second voice. Dianna has a very good singing voice for harmonies. She may not have the strongest voice of the cast, but I would love to have her in my choir. Her somewhat hazy, but clear voice provides just the right 'coloring' for this song. And it's a nice support for Cory's lead melody. It's almost as if her second voice 'wraps around' Cory's voice. They blend, but Cory stays on the foreground. It's totally different than Finchel, and I wish we had seen and heard more of it when they were a couple on the show.
Well, we got a little bit in 'I Can't Go For That/You Make My Dreams Come True'.
Maybe they are not the best/strongest duet partners, but they are very good together in harmonizing.

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Individual songs :
1-01 Pilot - Can't Fight This Feeling
1-10 Ballad - I'll Stand By You
1-10 Ballad - You're Having My Baby
1-14 Hell-O - Hello, I Love You
1-18 Laryngitis - Jessie's Girl
2-03 Grilled Cheesus - Losing My Religion
2-08 Furt - Just The Way You Are
2-11 The Sue Sylvester Shuffle - She's Not There
2-18 Born This Way - I've Gotta Be Me
3-07 I Kissed a Girl - Girls Just Wanna Have Fun

1-01 Pilot - Can't Fight This Feeling :
The first time we can hear Finn sing on the show.
You can hear that this song was recorded before Cory had started training his voice. His voice sounds 'small', even shrill, and he has no depth at all. But there's promise and potential, and apparently mr. Schue could hear that:


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And I agree with mr. Schue. ( ohmy.gif , that doesn't happen very often).
Even though his voice is untrained, Cory sings on key, he's got rhythm, and he has a very good, pure sound in his voice. A diamond in the rough.
Plus Cory has got something that I can't teach: the ability to convey emotion and empathy in his singing.
'Can't Fight This Feeling' still is one of my most favorite songs of Finn, and a large part of that is because it's rough and totally 'bare' of tricks and quirks.

1-10 Ballad - I'll Stand By You:
If you compare 'I'll Stand By You' with 'Can't Fight This Feeling' you can already hear the progress in singing techniques that Cory has made. There is more depth, and his voice is less shrill and smoother. He also sings with 'longer' notes (he stretches the words and notes to create more 'instrument/music'). In the verse I can hear that the lower notes are fuller. And in the chorus I can hear that Cory supports his higher notes better. A very good progress for suck a short period of time (I guess appr. a half year).
Sidenote: I love what the music people of Glee did with this song. It's a beautiful music arrangement. Although it's necessary to shut down all logic and just believe that Kurt can create all this music, including backup-singers, by simply playing on the piano. It's not even a keyboard he's using. But hey, it's Glee. Thank God Kurt never missed a piano lesson. wink.gif

1-10 Ballad - You're Having My Baby :
The second solo of Finn in one episode.
When you hear the original (Paul Anka) and compare it with Finn's version, you can hear that the arrangement is almost the same, but that Cory sings it quite differently than Paul Anka.
He sings about the same emotions and stays true to the song, but the intensity and energy is quite different. It's less 'mature' emotionally, more nervous, more 'storytelling'. I don't know exactly how to describe it, but somehow it's less about the feelings that a man feels when his partner is expecting a baby, but it's more about Finn telling the in-laws that Quinn is pregnant. And I think that is due to Cory knowing how and why he is singing this song in Glee. It's his acting coming through. And I love that. I love when I hear exactly why a song is sung in a specific situation/scene.
On Glee we all know that the context/meaning of a song is sometimes different than the original context/meaning. I'll get back to this later (and Finn fans will probably already know on what song I will comment on this more).
Sidenote: I think this song was part of one of the most cringeworthy and simultaneously most hilarious scenes on Glee ever. Here's the behind the scenes (YHMB is up at 0.50):




1-14 Hell-O - Hello, I Love You :
Risking the outcry of the Doors' fans: I really don't like Jim Morrison's voice. So Finn singing this song could only improve it, IMO.
Cory's voice is richer and fuller than Jim Morrison's. This gets emphasized by making the music arrangement of the Glee version richer and fuller as well. Of course at the time that the Doors recorded 'Hello, I Love You' the sound engineering techniques weren't as well developed as they are now. Who knows how the music they made back then would sound if they had the same techniques as they have now? Makes you want to invent a time machine to find out.
Anyway: the Finn version and music arrangement of 'Hello, I Love You' has an almost syrupy/wheedling vibe. It's sensual, and I love it. Who can resist that? And the way Cory sings the words: "I need my baby"…..well, helloooo?! laugh.gif


1-18 Laryngitis - Jessie's Girl :
Now you all know that I'm a loyal Kurtsie. But ^this song made me cheat on my man.
I went to the cinema to see the 3D concert movie with all intent to look at it with Kurt goggles: only focusing on Chris whenever he was on screen. But then Cory started singing 'Jessie's Girl', in 3D, and I was lost. Daaahm:



The energy that Cory brought to the stage, live, being Cory and definitely not Finn: that was magical.
Before the 3D movie Finn was already one of my favorite characters on Glee. But after the 3D movie Cory's natural charm and presence on stage had me wishing I was Cory's girl. blush.gif
I noticed that he was smiling so much, and I suddenly realized that the only time Finn ever smiles like that on Glee is when he's playing on the drums.
I spent the rest of the movie torn between two lovers: keeping one eye on my Kurt, the other one on Finn. That doesn't really work in 3D, let me tell you that. wacko.gif
So I went back a second time to see the movie again. Yup, not even gonna deny it.
Oh, and if you compare the tv version of 'Jessie's Girl' to the live 3D version: can you hear the improvement of vocal techniques? I can.

2-03 Grilled Cheesus - Losing My Religion :
Have you ever seen the movie 'Moulin Rouge'? In that movie 'real' pop songs are used as musical numbers that have a particular meaning in the story and actively move the plot along. Sometimes those songs lose their original meaning and the lyrics become about something else within the storyline of 'Moulin Rouge'. It's very cleverly done and makes you rediscover those songs anew.
Not unlike Glee, actually. wink.gif
The original meaning of 'Losing My Religion' is about 'obsession', as John Michael Stipe himself said in 'Rolling Stone'-magazine. He also described it as "a song about "unrequited love" in which all actions and words of the object of your obsession are scrubbed for hidden meaning and hopeful signs." (songfacts.com)
But that's not how Glee used it within the context of the show. It became a song about Finn literally 'losing his religion' after being disappointed by his grilled cheesus.
Now humor me and do this: completely forget the original meaning of this song, listen to it without knowing what's it about, but with the storyline of Finn in 'Grilled Cheesus' in your mind.
(lyrics 'Losing My Religion')
And you will find that the song fits Fin's emotions very well.



I told you I would come back to this. Sometimes the meaning of a song changes because of the context it is sung in. All that stands in the way is our own rigid opinion that a song can only be interpreted in one way. But if you can allow yourself to let that image in your mind go something new and exciting might happen. Of course: the original meaning is the right one, but an alternative meaning might be very interesting too.
Glee has tried this a few times on the show, and has had a few hits and fails using this 'trick'. Hit: 'It's all Over'. Fail: 'I Kissed a Girl'.
IMO 'Losing My Religion' was a hit. Glee did it even twice in this episode. Remember 'I Want To Hold Your Hand'? Noone ever questioned the different (than the original) meaning of that song. And it was beautiful.
Here's what Cory has to say about the use of 'Losing My Religion' on Glee:




2-08 Furt - Just The Way You Are :
My most favorite Furt moment ever.
Finn singing Bruno Mars, twice in one episode even. Now Bruno Mars has one of the highest tenor voices in the pop scene at the moment and I want Kurt to sing one of his songs.
Thank you music arrangers of Glee for transposing this song down to a lower key for Cory. He's singing it 2 semitones lower than the original. And it’s still very, very high for him. But transposing it to an even lower key would have damaged the 'coloring' of the song: it would have sounded odd. So this is a good call from Adam Anders.
I must admit that I love Cory's voice better when he doesn’t have to reach that high, but he's doing a fine job anyway, singing up to a B4flat. The good thing about Cory singing like this is that he gets a sexy haziness in his voice if he's singing this high and also soft (as in 'not too loud'). smile.gif
And when he's singing louder now he doesn't have to shout anymore to reach the highest notes. He's learned to support them with his vocal techniques. Cory could not have sung this song like this in season 1.

2-11 The Sue Sylvester Shuffle - She's Not There :
This song is more in Finn's 'wheelhouse'. It's lower, more suitable for the baritone that Cory is. Plus it's got a very good beat, something that must appeal to Cory the drummer.
You can hear that Cory's comfortable singing this song: he's relaxed and having fun. A perfect fit.
Originally 'She's Not There' is from a band called the Zombies (1964 !), but it became a hit again in the 70's when the band Santana covered it.
Oh, does anyone know if our cheerleader Santana was named after the music band? Naya fans, help me out?

2-18 Born This Way - I've Gotta Be Me :
I will never ever get enough of listening to this song. I will put in a youtube-video here (nice pics of Cory), but take my advice: make sure you have a high quality mp3 or m4a version, put on good headphones, close your eyes and just enjoy.



This song is when all promises and potential I heard in Finn's rough and untrained voice in the Pilot of Glee came together. This is the diamond sparkling and shining. Well done, Cory, well done. I bow to the Glee vocal coach, I bow to Cory for his hard work over 2-3 years.
Cory's voice is rounded, full, with depth, and with a natural vibrato you only get by singing without strain.
On Glee this song is marked as a Sammy Davis Jr. song, but Finn sings it faster than him. I found a version that is closer to the Glee cover. And since I never miss an opportunity to put in a song of queen Ella Fitzgerald biggrin.gif :




3-07 I Kissed a Girl - Girls Just Wanna Have Fun:
We had to wait a long time, before we could hear Finn sing a solo again in season 3. sad.gif
This song confused me. 'Girls Just Wanna Have Fun' used to be an anthem for every highschool girl back in the day. It took me a while to let go in my mind the Cindy Lauper version and exchange it for this one. And please forgive me, but I never heard of Greg Laswell or his version before.
So Finn's version was all new to me. I had to warm up to it, TBH.
But in the end I loved it because of Cory's fantastic low voice in this song, reaching lower than ever before (G2sharp). Cory's voice gets this 'raspy' sound in the slow lower notes (not to confuse with his 'haziness' in the highest notes of his vocal range). It's thrilling and it shows that although Cory does not have the most beautiful voice of the male castmembers: it's a very interesting and layered one.

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Personal Opinion :
When the producers of Glee started looking for a male (kid) lead they didn't want a 'Zac Efron' type. They didn't want someone who was too smooth, too good-looking. Well, I don't know about the good-looking, but I can understand the appeal that Cory's untrained voice had to the producers. Finn was supposed to be an untrained singer, but with potential to grow musically. And that's exactly what they got when they found Cory.

I love Cory's singing. Yes, in the beginning of Glee he was not good. Not bad, but not good either.
And I already liked him back then. Even though I'm a vocal coach and can hear the bad vocal techniques, or better said: the lack of vocal techniques, I can listen beyond that and appreciate a basically talented singer. And Cory is talented.
Cory has learned a lot over the last 3 years. His vocal techniques have improved, and he became a better singer. And I admire him for that. But you know what: even if he had technically stayed at almost the same level of the Pilot Finn: I still would have enjoyed listening to him sing.

That's because Cory has something that not all singers have and can't be taught: he's got feeling in his voice. He knows how to convey emotions, how to tell a story while singing. And I'm a sucker for that.
No matter how technically good a singer is: if he can't reach me emotionally, I'm not interested.
I already said this in Puck/Mark's review, I think. unsure.gif
I don't know if it's because of his acting abilities that Cory can do this. There are plenty of singers who can sing with emotion without having much acting skills (and some of them are on Glee tongue.gif ).
Maybe it's about who you are as a person. We know that Cory went through a lot in his youth. He seems like a genuine nice guy. Hes got a smart head on his shoulders, and more importantly: he's got a heart and a soul. Maybe that is what I hear when I listen to his songs.

As for song suggestions: rock is always good for Cory, whether it's classic or pop. That's his thing. Singers like Jon Bon Jovi, Bruce Springsteen, Bono, Mick Jagger.
But I must say that I really enjoyed his little venture into jazz/big band. So I'd love to hear some more of that, please.
I also think that Cory is an excellent duet partner. I would like to hear s few duets with (one of) the guys in ND. Or even mr. Schue. Something like Simon and Garfunkel, or Crosby, Stills and Nash.

And now: can we please stop calling Finn/Cory the worst singer of ND?
Because it really isn't true anymore.



A modo de no sonar muy fanatica creo que muchas veces Cory no le dan suficiente credito por el gran esfuerzo que hace al cantar y sobretodo bailar.
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Hace poco que encontré ese thread en gleeforum y me tocó leer ese review, la verdad que estoy de acuerdo con todo lo que cita Glorfindel (la autora); tal vez Cory no es técnicamente el mejor, pero su voz es disfrutable y sobre todo lo mas importante, sabe transmitir el sentimiento en cada melodía que canta cosa que no todos en el cast pueden hacer. De hecho ella menciona (no se si en este review) que Cory con alguna canción de su "wheelhouse" es decir, algún clasico del rock o algo de ese estilo, puede ser mejor que Darren e incluso Mark.

La verdad que ya hace falta un solo de Finn, alguna canción memorable para la serie a la "Jessie's Girl" o algún otro clásico ochentero (algo de Foreigner o Bryan Adams sería genial). Me parece increíble que el líder de New Directions solo haya tenido un solo en todo de lo que va de la temporada. Espero que al menos en las nacionales utilicen la vieja fórmula del número grupal: Finn/Rachel al frente con algunas partes para Artie y Mercedes (dejándole las notas más altas), los mejores números grupales de ND fueron de esa forma, aunque con esto último me salgo del tema, perdón.
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Mensaje por lokakary el Sáb Mar 31, 2012 3:32 am

gleefollower escribió:Hace poco que encontré ese thread en gleeforum y me tocó leer ese review, la verdad que estoy de acuerdo con todo lo que cita Glorfindel (la autora); tal vez Cory no es técnicamente el mejor, pero su voz es disfrutable y sobre todo lo mas importante, sabe transmitir el sentimiento en cada melodía que canta cosa que no todos en el cast pueden hacer. De hecho ella menciona (no se si en este review) que Cory con alguna canción de su "wheelhouse" es decir, algún clasico del rock o algo de ese estilo, puede ser mejor que Darren e incluso Mark.

La verdad que ya hace falta un solo de Finn, alguna canción memorable para la serie a la "Jessie's Girl" o algún otro clásico ochentero (algo de Foreigner o Bryan Adams sería genial). Me parece increíble que el líder de New Directions solo haya tenido un solo en todo de lo que va de la temporada. Espero que al menos en las nacionales utilicen la vieja fórmula del número grupal: Finn/Rachel al frente con algunas partes para Artie y Mercedes (dejándole las notas más altas), los mejores números grupales de ND fueron de esa forma, aunque con esto último me salgo del tema, perdón.

Si es en este review donde dice lo de Darren y Mark, de hecho e visto que en estas ultimas canciones de Love Shack y Fly / I Believe I Can Fly varios han confundido las voces de Cory y Darren especialmente en la parte en la que Finn canta I Believe I Can Fly. Yo creo que a Cory no le han dado una cancion adecuada a su voz en donde se pueda lucir por lo regular o son en un tono muy alto o simplemente son canciones poco apreciables como en I've Gotta Be Me hiso un exelente trabajo pero solo por que es Cory/Finn tienden a creer que esta mal cantada y no aprecian la gran evolucion que a tenido la voz de Cory desde la primera temporada.

En cuanto a lo de las nacionales creo que tienes razon yo espero ver algo parecido a las regionales de la primera temporada, es decir un dueto de "finchel" y un numero de los seis originales(finn rachel kurt mercedes artie tina) moriria si hicieran un numero como Dont Stop Believing (pilot) ya que sera la ultima vez que los veamos juntos.
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lokakary escribió:
Si es en este review donde dice lo de Darren y Mark, de hecho e visto que en estas ultimas canciones de Love Shack y Fly / I Believe I Can Fly varios han confundido las voces de Cory y Darren especialmente en la parte en la que Finn canta I Believe I Can Fly. Yo creo que a Cory no le han dado una cancion adecuada a su voz en donde se pueda lucir por lo regular o son en un tono muy alto o simplemente son canciones poco apreciables como en I've Gotta Be Me hiso un exelente trabajo pero solo por que es Cory/Finn tienden a creer que esta mal cantada y no aprecian la gran evolucion que a tenido la voz de Cory desde la primera temporada.

En cuanto a lo de las nacionales creo que tienes razon yo espero ver algo parecido a las regionales de la primera temporada, es decir un dueto de "finchel" y un numero de los seis originales(finn rachel kurt mercedes artie tina) moriria si hicieran un numero como Dont Stop Believing (pilot) ya que sera la ultima vez que los veamos juntos.

Diste en el punto con lo resaltado en negritas, A Finn/Cory no se le da crédito por su gran progreso como cantante, todavía recuerdo algunos comentarios en la zona spoiler donde menospreciaban las canciones en que Finn participaba (aún sin escucharlas) solo porque es él (los Mash-ups del episodio Mash-off) y que decir de los comentarios sobre la controversial versión de "Girls just wanna have fun". Las canciones del episodio Michael donde participa muestran su gran mejora, creo que podemos esperar cosas de esa calidad de ahora en adelante. Otra canción que ha sido uno de los mejores duetos de toda la serie es "With you I'm born again" que técnicamente fue muy buena, lástima que no la vendieran como sencillo.

Incluso como actor Cory es algo subvalorado por el fandom, fácilmente está en el Top 3 del cast, obtuvo su papel como Finn por sus habilidades actorales y porque le vieron potencial en su voz (aunque nunca hubiera cantado antes), el mismo Darren audicionó para ese papel y no lo obtuvo. A veces es difícil creerse que Cory tiene casi 30 años e interpreta a un adolescente de 18.

Regresando a Finn, no entiendo porque todavía hay quienes lo siguen odiando sin sentido, de igual forma sacan de contexto cosas como cuando le dio de comer carne a Rachel cuando esa línea fue usada para fines cómicos, entre otras cosas. Glee también se trata de que los personajes aprendan de sus errores no que sean perfectos, de que hay que trabajar para conseguir las cosas, que no todo va a ser color rosa y con florecitas (mismas razones porque las que yo no compro la idea de cosas como St Berry o Klaine). En algún lugar que no recuerdo vi una entrevista que le hicieron a Cory donde cita textualmente acerca de su personaje "He represents what Glee's about" y la verdad tiene mucha razón.
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Mensaje por lokakary el Lun Abr 02, 2012 2:52 am

gleefollower :

Tienes razon en todo, creo que dentro del fandom Cory es el actor mas subvalorado lo cual lo encuentro ironico ya que es de los tres actores mas populares. (sin contar a los adultos) Creo que muchos se dejan llevar por el fanatismo y no son nada imparciales cuando se trata de dar una opinion en cuanto al actor o al personaje o acciones del personaje.

Yo tampoco entiendo el ODIO hacia Finn, si nos ponemos a pensar todos en la serie tiene sus momentos de estupides pero nadie es tan odiado como Finn lo cual me atrevo a decir que ese odio viene de los fans de diferentes parejas que quieren ver a Rachel con otro personaje que no sea Finn y por supuesto ahora se le agregaron los fans de Santana :D.


Otra cosa y tal vez me salga del tema pero ya que lo mencionas eso de que Finn le diera de comer carne a Rachel estan estupido por dos razones primero fue parte de la comedia segundo si nos ponemos a pensar. En la escena del boliche se ve a Rachel comer pizza de peperoni. En una de las escenas donde Rachel esta en departamento de Will, Rachel prepara un guiso no recuerdo de que pero lleva carne en la escena antes de Without You Kurt pide un chesse cake para Rachel.En la escena donde Mercedes Kurt y Rachel estan viendo twilight los tres comparten las mismas botanas (las cuales supongo no son vegetarianas) Otra cosa como es que Rachel no supo distingir que era carne real cuando los suplementos de carne saben diferente (me consta por que lo e comido no sabe mal pero si diferente) En fin a mi parecer Rachel no es tan debota a su vegetarianismo.

Pero bueno asi es el fandom con doble moral en cuanto a Finn mientras a otros personajes se les perdona sus errores a Finn se le acribilla.
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